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The Moron Shrine The West Wing – Morons From The Past A place where really, really dumb things can getthe credit they so, so richly deserve. Return to the Main Hall Item Thirty-Five B: August 5, 1999 Charles Doane, Part II It’s like a goddamned train wreck. I know I should be skimming the scum […]


The Moron Shrine
The West Wing – Morons From The Past
A place where really, really dumb things can get
the credit they so, so richly deserve.

Return to the Main Hall

Item Thirty-Five B: August 5, 1999
Charles Doane, Part II
It’s like a goddamned train wreck. I know I should be skimming the scum off the surface of the Internet, but I keep diving deeper into this one fetid, stagnant pool, pulling up more and more deformed specimens of barely-human psyche. And since I like to share, here’s some more gems from the mind of Chuck Doane.

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No, it was included in the cost. It’s just like the ethernet I have at work, not only is it *free* by your definition, but I get *paid* while I use it. That’s even better than free, by your logic, but that’s really not the case, it’s one of the costs my employer bears for my employ. I could just use my work account and have *free* net access, but I’m not like that, work is work, home is home, and the two don’t mix. I do have another account at work, but you’ll never see me use it here. I don’t think .edu accounts should be used here either, things should be kept in seperate boxes. I want everything seperate. I don’t even let my own mother have my work phone number, because she’s personal, and work is business. When she asked for it, I told her to leave a message on my answering machine. If it’s because Dad’s died, he’ll still be dead when I get home. Work is work, home is home.

I don’t have to ‘know’ people to judge them. I had a bum rush to my truck in the store parking lot. I had my door locked and a .380 cocked and loaded in my hand before he ever got close enough to try and rob me. Maybe he wanted to just panhandle, I don’t know that. I don’t care. The bum saw the nice, shiny gun and left, rather quickly, so I can assume he didn’t really want to be my pal.

Fearful and paranoid? That’s not a description of me at all. I’m not afraid of anything, I just make sure that I don’t have any reason to fear anything.

Everyone makes judgements, and the quicker you make them, the better off you are. If you wait to “know someone” before you judge them, you’re a prime target for crooks.

What the heck was that? Mating is what insects do. They don’t have sex. Nobody’s buying dinners at the Roach Motel, buddy, it’s a slam-bam-thank-you-ma’am, and gone. That’s not having sex, and it’s not learned, either.

It’s (editor’s note: “It” refers to homosexuality) exactly like child molestation, 100%. People can’t give permission to others for an act of sodomy, so it’s the exact same as statutory rape, whether or not *consent* is given. In that case, consent *can’t* be given, so it’s a crime against nature.

That was a nice essay on moderation, but it doesn’t really apply to videogames, because you can’t *EVER* play too many videogames. They don’t make me tired, or irritable, or logy, they just keep me happy.
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Never have my closing comments been more superfluous than they are right now.

Item Thirty-Five: July 19, 1999
Charles Doane
Bit of a diversion here for the Shrine. Charles is reasonably articulate, rarely descends into anger, and is, as far as I can tell, in the grips of a deep and powerful self-induced psychosis. In addition to his feeling that homosexuality is a “perversion”, which is nothing new, let me provide you with a collection I like to call “Chuck Don’t…” Well, maybe I shouldn’t. Even if it does rhyme so beautifully. Smidge blue for the Shrine. Anyway, into the mouth of madness, or some such orifice:

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Sex is too serious to be fun. As far as I’m concerned, anything without a controller is no fun at all. Cars are fun, motorcycles are fun, videogames are loads of fun. A controller is necessary for fun. Without a controller, there’s no way to have fun at all.

Sex is stupid because it *is* stupid. No other physical activity has brought about so many devices and drugs to counter its’ deleterious effects. Anyone who thinks about it, wouldn’t do it. It’s not a very bright activity, and the risks far outweigh any perceived benefit.

I’m intellectual by nature, I don’t even listen to my hormones or prurient desires. I’m stronger than my body is. My mind defines who I am, nothing else.

Sex isn’t pure, it’s a “vector”, a cause and carrier of disease. Sex isn’t natural. It’s a learned behavior, that’s why the increased exposure to it in entertainment increased the practice of it in the last 30 years or so.

It is a learned behavior. That’s why schools have “sex ed” classes, and it’s why prepubescent children aren’t very interested in it.
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Whoa, Nellie. What can you say to someone who’s apparently gunning for Nocturnal Emission Poster Boy? That is, without a doubt, one of the most astonishingly, painstakingly constructed self-delusions ever to excuse a fundamental inability to “get some”. I mean, I may have a dozen or so videogame systems, and hundreds of different games, but Chuck makes those of us who also have a little thing called “perspective” look positively… normal.

Your mind defines who you are, Chuck. And who you are is, by my layman’s diagnosis, one innocuous trigger away from a clock tower. Yeesh.

Item Thirty-Four: July 1, 1999
Jocking Off
Nothing brings out the best in public discourse like the debate over public funding of stadiums. And for every reasoned, economic analysis posted to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune’s public forum, there’s one beer-guzzling halfwit who still hasn’t taken the damn Vikings flags from last season off of his damn car.

Eric Hembre is that halfwit. There really is something truly special about seeing the jock brand of stupidity on the Internet. Since I don’t frequent Repressed Gay Porn sites, and anyway, none of them have talkback forums, it’s really rare that you’ll see the Jock Perspective in 12-point Courier. So enjoy the lyrical stylings of Mr. Hembre, Football Booster, and today’s special friend:

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Jerry usually you and I agree on the same things but not today. I think right now the Vikings are more important to work on than the Twins. The Twins are a losing team. It wouldn’t hurt the state much if we lost the Twins. Now imagine if the state lost a winning team like the Vikings. We can’t afford that. I don’t want to see MY VIKINGS IN TEXAS, OR CALIFORNIA! And if Red McCombs thinks that’s what he’s gonna get, he’s got another thing coming to him. No body but Minnesota deserves the Vikings. Reasons? I got some. First Minnesota fans have shown they have support for this team regardless of what the record at the end of the season shows, if its 15-1 or 2-14, it doesn’t matter here. Now look at Texas, they have enough teams as it is and they don’t even take care of most of them! Dallas Cowboys are nothing but overpaid over 35 years of age drug addicts, Houston lost the Oilers because of lack of fan appreciation, and now look what’s happening, they want a new team. TOUGH *&@! You blew it, the Oilers moved
on their HIStory! If they think they can buy OUR Vikings and get away with it, they better think twice. Help bui
ld the stadium for the Vikings first. I don’t wanna have to turn into a Packer fan if they end up moving. At best Red do the right thing, sell the team and when the NFL decides on a expansion team for Houston, buy them! GO MINNESOTA Vikings!
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Really, it’s opinions like this that make me feel so much better about giving up my own hard-earned money so that Mr. Hembre can avoided the dreaded packerfan status. However, in the interests of equity and equality, I expect that come September 9, 1999, an influx of tax money shows up at my doorstop, paying for 75% of my new Dreamcast. After all, it’s important for me to enjoy my leisure activities in the most up-to-date facilities available. Otherwise, I might take me, and the state revenue I generate, elsewhere.

Welcome to the Shrine, Eric. Here’s your deluxe Skybox.

Item Thirty-Three: June 30, 1999
The Moron Shrine Hall Of Fame
Today, ladies and gentlemen, is a special moment for The Moron Shrine. All too often, we look at the individual moron, without paying heed to the societal backdrop on which he squats. But it is time to rectify that oversight. Which is why, today, I am inducting the Talkback feature of Ain’t It Cool News into The Moron Shrine.

What can one say about the AICN Talkback? If you were Alec Guinness, you’d call it a wretched hive of scum and villainy. A hip pop-culture type would call it the Mini-Me to Usenet’s Dr. Evil. And Harry “Ain’t It Cool News” Knowles needs to take a look at the Talkbacks, realize that is, in fact, his audience, and run screaming into the night.

It’s not just the individual posts. It’s the whole vibe. This sort of sickly, saliva-covered, worst of Internet fandom/anti-fandom reek that wafts off of the Talkback secion like a badly mixed metaphor and sullies your soul forever. The way you have to go to a giant, long page to read this tripe. The way every damn one of them veers off into an unrelated debate on Star Wars.

If there is a gooey caramel center to the moron experience on the Internet, it is the AICN Talkback. Here’s some choice tidbits.

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“I know this movie will suck because of two things. One being technological gizmos in the Old West. That is just so bullshit. Hell they were lucky to have muskets and six shooters. But in this fucking movie they have all this shit. Gimme a break!!” (Wild Wild West)

“(obligatory boost: Star Wars Ep. 1 is good, dammit. Leave Jar Jar alone.)”

“And HARRY! “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service” was the best goddamned Bond film ever made! You claim to be a Bond fan, you ass???? Connery, Moore, Dalton, and especially Brosnan couldn’t carry Lazenby’s strap!” (two sentences from a fifty-line post. All of it like that.)

“Its open season on whitey in tinseltown just as long as we’re foolish enough to pay for revisionist crap like WILD WILD WEST.”

So what will they do now? every plot revolves around getting a cure for Earth right? ok i say we just use our imagination and say that…WOW, they found a cure!! all the lives were saved and everybody was happy….. 11 more to go!!!!! (about Crusade)

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But enough of that. That’s just a tiny sample. Let’s close with one quote that, really, could be the thesis statement for the horror that is the AICN Talkback:

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“I love how everyone has their own opinion and thats it? I certainbly have mine and have expressed mine, but I have lso followed it with I respect other opinions as well. But seriously, what a bunch of whining botches in here.”
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Item Thirty-Two: June 9, 1999
Da Feebs: The Dark Side
Tag team action here at the Moron Shrine today. The linking factor? Those crappy pogs that have invaded three different crappy fast food joints as part of their Star Wars promotion.

First up, we have Russ. Russ tried to scam his way into a cool grand with the following post:

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HI!, as I am an avid chewbacca and yoda collector from star wars I currently in need of a yoda game medallion from taco bell, kfc, or pizza hut. I am willing to trade one of my extra darth maul .01 moc figs for it. lmk if you have him, and please email me at [email protected]
do not reply here or I will not read it
thanks
russ
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Of course, since Yoda is the rare game piece needed for the $1,000 prize, he got duly slapped down by the denizens of rec.toys.action-figures.discuss. Despite his claim, he did read the replies, and responded thusly:

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You guys should be ashamed. Can you really blame a person for wanting 1000 dollars? Well, hopefully I will get him SOMEHOW. But it aint goin to be with you jealous freaks out ot get me.
Cya
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Really, just classic stuff. Oh, elsewhere in the newsgroup, Russ has repeatedly tried to pass off his crappyass Episode One figures, but as a Special Shrine Bonus, I’m including this fantastic offer from the Russmeister:

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First off, I have some Storm Qui-Gonn Jinn unnumbered cans ( rare because they aren’t numbered like the 24 different). I have been trading people 1 unopened storm can for 1 episode 1 figure moc, but as of today I will throw in 2 FREE Episode 1 widevision cards of my choice with each can to trade. Yes thats 2 FREE CARDS!
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Russ’ bunkmate here in the Shrine is good old Steve Nauert. If Russ is the brain-damaged Schnauzer who’s always sniffing your ass, Steve is the rabid Doberman who, in trying to rip your throat out, runs repeatedly into the plate glass window.

Steve’s crime? Another pog scam, this time trying to auction off common as dirt game pieces on eBay:

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ON EBAY I HAVE SEVERAL RARE DTDS GAME PIECES FROM TACO BELL. SEARCH AUCTIONS BY MADHATTER8 TO BID. THESE ARE HOT ONES!
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When he got slapped down for, well, being a lameass, basically, since he was trying to sell people something they could pick up off the floor of Taco Bell for free, Steve, master of the witty comeback, offered the following in his defense:

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get a life and some social skills mike
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C3p0 is not rare.

mike get a life..
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MIKEY, I HAVE A RIGHT TO POST AN EBAY AUCTION, IF YOU DIDNTWANT TO READ IT, DONT! ROUGH FOR YOU! SORRY YOU MADE SUCH A I DEAL OVER WHAT A RETARD YOU ARE.
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how do you know if I knew what the rare peices were when I did the auction. why do you care so much. mike dont make up lies to hide your trollish lifestyle….

Some fun facts about Steve. The first message above was posted three separate times. WebTV’s not as easy to use as they say, I guess. The second and fourth messages above were in response to people not named Mike.

And finally, Steve decided to summarize all his points into one last defense post, posted, of course, to the completely wrong thread:

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You guys are making mountains out of mole hills. please, how do you know if I knew what the rare peices were when I did that auction. why are you wasting your time on this. mike don tmake up lies to hide your trollish life.
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Remember, like Yoda said, bulletin boards lead to Usenet. Usenet leads to morons. Morons lead to suffering. Suffering leads to the Shrine.

Item Thirty-One: May 11, 1999
Matt Frisch
Some morons are generalists, others are specific. Some, in fact, are so specific that
they choose one moronic idea, and cling to it like it’s their life raft and they’re surrounded by rabid sharks.

Which brings us to Matt Frisch. In a discussion on rec.arts.sf.t
v about, what else, B5 vs. DS9, the topic of people writing a lot of episodes of a TV show came up. Matt claimed that:

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Matt Groening has written close to 10 years of simpsons episodes, and maintained perfect quality throughout.
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Ignoring for a moment the phrase “perfect quality throughout”, Matt is, of course, just plain wrong. People tried to point this out to him, to no avail.

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>Mt. Groening has not even been executive producer the last couple of
>seasons. I forget the guy who is…

He writes every episode.
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>No, he doesn’t. Get your facts straight.

The names you see on “written by” are people who get to have their name there for the sake of having their name there. They may add ideas, and might qualify for co-written credits. But Groening does most of it.
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We’re talking about a man so delusional that Ford Thaxton is arguing with him, and Ford is -right-. We’ll see how this little saga unfolds over the next couple of days, but what we’ve seen so far indicates that Mr. Frisch is eminently qualified to join the Shrine.

Item Thirty: April 15, 1999
The Rollcage Reviewers
Maybe it’s just because I’m cranky today, but I’ve decided to enShrine a pair of people who, even in my pissed-off view of the world, only just barely qualify. They’re certainly no Item Twenty Nine. But stupidity is a spectrum, a continuum if you will. Plus, there’s been a common theme of late that giving the average person a global audience may not be in our society’s best interest or something.

Anyway, this kind of falls into that category. Those who’ve visited the almost never-updated “Other Items of Interest” link at the Canvas have seen links to a couple of Reader Reviews I submitted to then videogamespot dot com. They’ve since dropped the pot from their name, but judging from these two reader reviews of Rollcage (an excellent game, by the way), I think I know where the pot went. We need some munchies, STAT! Roll tape.

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Raphael’s Review
I would just like to say first that this is another great racing game from Psygnosis and you should try it out. I got this game on April 6 and I got it at 107.9 The End because my bro works there and one of the guys hooked me up with it. The cool part about it was that it was the Limited Edition game and it came with a music CD with all the music from the game on it. That just kicks ass because it turns out all the music is techno and I listen to techno all the time and I also DJ raves in Cleveland. But the raves down here suck so go to California or D.C. if you want to go to a good one.

But anyway about the game. You could tell that this game was just a side project that Psygnosis was working on just by the FMV at the beginning of the game. Its not as good as the WipeOut ones that they put at the beginning of the WipeOut games. Then you start the game. You choose one of the cool cars they have designed to go on ceilings and on the sides of walls and also the ground. When you start a race you just look at the graphics and say WOW! These graphics are just great! I can’t wait to see what WipeOut 3 is going to look like. When you start off you can do the usually boost off thing like in every other racing game. Just press the excel button right before the announcer says 1. Then you boost right out of the starting line! This is where the stuff gets crazy. From here on you can drive up walls, get power weapons to shoot at your enemies, and blow stuff up to make that stuff get in the way of your enemy to cause him to crash! Well I guess you just have to play it for yourself to see. If you can try to get the limited edition game so you can get the kick ass sound track!

Timothy’s Review
If you want a fully action game that involves racing, well this is your game! This game has everything in it ranging from going on either side of your car, shooting the opponents vehicle, going on walls, and a lot more!

When we first played this game it was like that new RC Car that just came out not to long ago that if your car flips it will keep going because it has four big wheels that the inside is smaller than the wheels. But it is funny because when you go fast and you go over a hill you will fly in the air doing all these flips. The graphics in this game are okay; I wouldn’t call them great, but they are okay. I said they were okay because some of the graphics were jittery and when you go near the ocean in one of the levels the ocean looks like it is just going up and down.

The sound in this game is great; when you shoot something in this game it sounds like a normal gun shooting. The engine sound is awesome, and the best part I when you shoot a bomb or something in that nature it sounds like a real blast because the particles hit your screen, it looks like.

Now you will have fun with this game because it is unique, and it is a lot of fun. Just because it is racing game doesn’t mean it is just a racing game, you can do a lot of stuff like a mentioned above, and a lot more. And plus there is a Limited Edition going on where you can get a Rollcage soundtrack in it. So go buy this game and believe us you will have a lot of fun with this game.
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The run-on sentence is not your friend. Oh, and in the interests of fairness and all, I submitted my -own- Reader Review of Rollcage, and when/if it appears, you’ll be able to find it here.

Item Twenty Nine: April 6, 1999
Acrnefan
It’s getting to be like Harry Knowles around here. I’ve got spies, and every once in a while, one of the Shrine fans out there sends me a suggestion. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t; I have odd standards for the Shrine. But don’t let that stop you. If it weren’t for a spy, I’d have never have discovered the joy that is Acrnefan.

AF hangs out on, of all places, the Yahoo discussion board devoted to First Union Bank. My first impression upon visiting this board was that the whole damn thing deserved a special entry in the Shrine. But that’d be giving the whole class detention for the spitballs of half a dozen, so, instead, I’ll single out the Head Moron and make him clean virtual erasers until the cows come home. Here, for your enjoyment, the collected writings of Acrnefan:

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Melissam…
by: acrnefan (2260 of 2311)

You’re ignorants is showing. When you use the word graduate in the past tinse, you have to ad an “ed” to the end. Its graduated. Bye the way, I did graduate from high school. Maybe you better give some thought to going back their so you can get another job when First Union and the Money Store kick you on the street. No wonder first Union layed you off. You don’t even have good english.

You are so stupid, you made me laugh out lowd. Maybe you ought to follow my erlier suggestion and get some pills to help you out with that bad attitude of yors.I here they make some good ones called prozak. Because if you came to old Acme’s plumbing Company here in Philadelphia, I’d tell you to get your still unemployed self out of my shop.

I don’t know why, Sall1999,
by: acrnefan (2262 of 2311)

but I am going to respond to you even though you a strip club person who buys hookers in timessquare. My brother who lives in New York told me that there are no more hookers in times square. He says that he has to go out to Queens to find hookers.

I don’t no what all this drug talk like calling people dude is all about, but
i do no that I can’t think of one street that I’ve ever seen in New York that starts with SAL, so you better make up a better st
ory about not stealing that name.

Now that I’ve gotten that stupid unemployed Mellisam corrected, I need to tell you that the conjunction for they are is spelled “they’re” not “there”. I’m not going to hold it against you sense you were raised in New York probably by crack whores that you hang out with at that scores that I have heard howard sturn talk about. You think your so smart that I don’t no what that is.

I think that if I headed over to new York to visit time sqaure, I probably would see Mikey Mouse instead of some crack whore hookers that you think I would see. I don’t think you no anything about New York because you are a fraud which has been proven right here right now.

I dont know what all this talk about
by: acrnefan (2273 of 2312)

crabs and muscles and clap is all about. This is a stock chat board. Aparrently, all you current and former first Union hillbillies cant read good enough to know where your posting these messages. I have a good mind to call that Mr. Crunchfeel first thing on Monday mornig to tell him how much time his employees are waisting on this bored. It seems that if all of you would quit speding all your time trying to find out how to insult my ethnicity here, you could get back to work and make some money for this compny.

It is good to see that that angry girl Melissam has quit posting here. I don’t know what worst about her. Her bad grammar or her bad atittude.

Listen, Fellow Yanks
by: acrnefan (2285 of 2311)

We don’t have a lot of time to be arguing with these undereducated, underpaid, liveing in the 1860s southern hillbillies. Last year, when I went to Myrtle beach to play golf, I found out that those rednecks still fly the confedurate battel flag from there state capital. I think that we bom foren countries for less.

You see the thing that they don’t reelize is just because there dumb and happy it dosent mean there doing good. Now up here in the north a hard working man like me can become self made and indepentedly wealthy. Its funny to lissen to how important they think they are.

Just think what’s going to happen to those stupid people when me and some of my union boys get down there and get those rednecks organzed. Those lilly white southern sissy boys will be crappin in their pants the first time we drill a non-union guy if you know what I mean.

I’ll give them this much, there wethers nice, but it sure is fun making a lot of money off them while they think there doing so good.

Thank You Mike Burrell of Smegma Georgia
by: acrnefan (2292 of 2308)

for providing evidense of my argument about how stupid southerners are. What I would suggest you do is invest you money in the Bank of Acrnefan. Its right here in my left pocket.

I can’t understand why when someone makes a stupid move like you did they have to post a big story bout it on the innternet. I think you would do better to put a bummer sticker on yor old beat up truck that says I’m dumber than dogsh*t.

Now do yourself a favor and take down that web page before anybody else sees it and you look more foolish
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If the Internet had a food chain, Usenet would be eating Dejanews, Dejanews would be eating AOL, AOL would be eating WebTV, WebTV would be eating specialized sites’ web message boards, and at the bottom would be these portal discussion forums. And frantically digging into the muck to avoid becoming a meal for his peers would be Acrnefan.

Item Twenty Eight: April 1, 1999
Stephen Hawking
He’s just so stupid, talking about black holes and time and stuff, and his little WarGames voice box, pretending he’s such hot stuff and being on the Simpsons and Star Trek and everything.

Dork.

Item Twenty Seven: March 25, 1999
Lance Peterson
Sometimes, you just know. When I heard that Minnesota’s challenge to Native American hunting and fishing rights had been thrown out by the Supreme Court, I knew, just knew, that I was going to find someone enShrinable over at the Star Tribune website. And Lance Peterson didn’t let me down.

Lance Peterson. Now there’s a Norwegian gay porn name if ever there was one. But that’s besided the point. Lance Peterson’s all in a dudgeon about the decision, and attempts to wrap his feeble grasp of English around the problem, wrestle it to the ground, and, apparently, place a wager on the outcome.

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I would think that the tribes would want to be very careful of there upcoming desicions. Do you risk losing your casino income for fisihing?? Plenty of there customers are the fishermen of the lakes they want to harvest?? A boycott would change their minds in a quick hurry. I would like to know why this Wisconsin tribes are going to be allowed to fish MN lakes??

I think that the Chippewa need to look how they took control of that area–the Chippewa are not native to MN–they took it from other tribes. Or do they look at their situation different?

Did they 1837 treaty mean commerical fishing in 1999? What skills were meant? I don’t think our forfathers meant that. What does gill netting and commerical fishing have to do with their religon?? Seems odd??

Since when does “shining” deer have a religous presence?? A high powered rifle and a spotlight I doubt were mentioned either. If it’s needed for culture–do it the old way, the tradition of your ancestors.

My question of native american–are you not native american if you are born in America?? If so have many of us are native american??

An answer to the casino problem–simple 6-10 state run casinos, 1 in Canturbury, 1 in St Cloud, 1 in Rochester, 1 in Brainard, 1 in Mankato, 1 in Duluth. Maybe one in Fergus Falls or Alexandria, maybe in the Mall of America Proceeds of the casino are… 60% education 20% DNR 10% Stadiums and cultural events 10% General fund

Takes care of a lot of issues, lowers taxes better schools, if I want to gamble let me make my choice of where I want the money to go!! I know I won’t be in a Grand Casino.
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You may not be in a Grand Casino, Lance, but you’ve just taken your first step into a much larger universe. The universe of the Moron Shrine. Although I will give ya credit, your percentages actually add up to 100.

Item Twenty Six: February 26, 1999
The “Invaders”. In Color.
Newsgroup invasion is the Internet’s closest known equivalent to cow tipping. Give a bored teenage redneck a modem, and he’s still a bored teenage redneck. And, surprise surprise, right after the word came down that MST3K would be ending this year, my home group, rec.arts.tv.mst3k.misc, got “invaded”. Poorly. By some morons. Who get enshrined. Because I can.

Let’s run it down. We’ve got Gid Tanner, Muffy Bits, and Rob Cypher (a.k.a. Great Tit, a.k.a. Mickey D), up to all of which may in fact be the same person. Or not. Since it doesn’t really matter, does it? Let’s go to the tape.

First, we have the blatant, poorly constructed provocateur post:
“MST3K was cancelled…because nobody watches it.” – Gid Tanner

The above, plus self-aggrandizement:
“MST3K IS CANCELLED!!!! HA HA HA!!!
ROB CYPHER!
ROB CYPHER IS THE GREATEST!!!” – Rob Cypher

The above, only just against the newsgroup…
“rec.arts.tv.mst3k.misc will die now Because the show has been canceled, and there’s no further use for dialogue.” –
Rob Cypher

Making fun of people’s screen names…
“I have a sexy farmgirl pin up calander.” – Muffy Bits

We’ve got the old, standby fa
t joke…
“Mary Jo Pehl killed MST3K. She smothered the show with her big fat ASS.” – Gid Tanner

Incompetent Infiltration and Redirection…
“Trolls most often pose as regulars and try to incite people – wait a cottin’ picking minute. Troll feeding….OH MY GOD THIS IS NOT A REAL REG, IT IS A TROLL.” – Muffy Bits

The sock-puppet mutual admiration society…
“Cypher Vs. RATMM: Place your bets, place your bets. The odds are ninety-nine to one, in his favor.” – Gid Tanner

Implausible Deniability…
“Hey man, I made that post [to invade RATMM] before I knew it was cancelled.” – Gid Tanner

Some emergency last-minute scatology…
“My mate does not flush…The toilet after she leaves a log. I come back from watching taped episodes of MST3K and there is a large train of waste, waiting to be ejected. I hate that so bad. Tell me about your similar experiences, please.” – Muffy Bits

And the usual array of crossposted flame threads, inane blather, and half-assed tomfoolery that accompanies such an “invasion”.

And, of course, it was doomed to fail, right from the start. Days of effort, and what did they get? A couple of bites from regulars who, at any other time, would have known better. A handful of bites from lurkers brought into the fore by cancellation. And two, maybe three reminders not to feed the energy creature.

Not so much an invasion really, as a quick penetration, even quicker climax, followed by days of bragging to friends about their newfound experience. As a badge of your coming of age, I present your entry to the Shrine. Enjoy.

Item Twenty Five: February 22, 1999
Classics’ Corner: “dteak8syou”
In the world of Internet morons, there are, in fact, certain archetypes. Rarely do we come across such a picture-perfect example of one of those archetypes as we do here with “dteak8syou”. First, the obvious; he’s an AOL user. Such attention to detail. Then we have the obligatory skimpy DejaNews profile, featuring a trio of similar posts to a British Playstation newsgroup, as well as his winning entry, shown below, posted to rec.arts.tv.mst3k.misc:

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Subject: WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR SO GOOD?

WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR SO GOOD NO-ONE LIKES YOU, yOu aRe AlL gLoRy GrAbBerS wHo wAtCh star TrEk And Go To Conventions—————- and meat mick spock!!!!!!! mst3k is poo! THEY REMOVED MST3K IT IF OF COMEDY CENTRAL BECOZ IT WOZ KRAPP! Do YoU gEt MY dRiFt

p.s. chRIS cOOper Is GaY and He Murders Small Innocent Animals
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I mean, really. Just priceless. Like a perfectly fossilized T-Rex skeleton. The inconsistent capitalization, the desperate cry for help, the previous AOL screen name. Possibly the purest ever specimen of “80 IQ AOL-Using Incompetent Trollster” uncovered to date. And now, preserved in amber, enshrined. Andy Warhol was wrong. It is the future, and we don’t have fifteen minutes, we have 100 free hours. Some of use gather our rosebuds while we may, others just spread fertilizer. But dung by any other name smells sweeter in a virtual glass case, and that, my friends, is what this place is all about.

Item Twenty Four: February 11, 1999
My Fellow Minnesotans
When, when, when, when will Internet sites learn that allowing their users to express their opinions is a really bad idea? Case in point. I was over at the Star-Tribune web site today, doing “research” for today’s NewsBreak, and stumbled across a talk-back section about the same story. There, I found some gems, but none quite as lovely as this screed from “jerry”:

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I am getting to like Jesse more and more! He is alot smarter and sharper than most people think. And he gets better as a Governor everyday. He is going to be a very good, effective but contoversial Governor. Wasnt he right on having babies with a partner who left her? Yes he was and I know, the Truth hurts! As far as tact, or words of pure elequance. fuhgetaboutit! Jesse is Jesse and Jesse will remain Jesse! And thats good! Way to go Jesse! I heard him on a broadcast at 10Am today on KCNN radio from EGrand Forks live at the Capitol, answer questions from concerned people. he was right, sharp, witty, funny and alot of common sense comes out! Nice going Jesse. How much real income does Kling, Pres of MPR earn? I heard big ridiculous numbers. They spend wildly on expensive things and needs. On our tax dollars every year. Jesse wants the bucks to stop flowing into Klings budget…thats good! It doesnt mean the end of MPR, it means being more accountable and cutting extravagant items and people. Way to go Jesse!
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“Jesse is Jesse and Jesse will remain Jesse! And that’s good!” Now that, jerry, is what I call “words of pure elequance”. And it’s also your passport into the Shrine as our very first authenticated home state Moron.

Item Twenty Three: February 2, 1999
Dan Bathrobe
Dan’s a hoot. Really. Just a hoot. Bordering on a hoot and a half. Here’s some context. Dan doesn’t think that Wayne Imlach, Psygnosis Representative (Wayne is represented by the “>” marks below) is really a Psygnosis representative. He also thinks that Wipeout 3 is Wipeout 4 because Wipeout 64 is Wipeout 3, the true sequel to Wipeout XL which is Wipeout 2 which was known as Wipeout 2063. Got it? Good.

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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:41:01 -0000, “Wayne Imlach” wrote: >Thanks for spotting that oversight about the press release not being
>mentioned on our official website. I have requested the webmaster update the
>site immediately (not that it will however …

Because you’re probably just a liar.

>As to my position, well you don’t have to believe a word I say. That’s your
>choice.

Even if I did believe, I wouldn’t care.
What makes me NOT believe is that you’re acting as though your collecting important development information from the internet, as if feedback from us really matters at all.

Truth is, it doesn’t. Any postive additions made from the three versions are already well established, and new additions are tested during the beta period. That’s why developers hire people to play the games. Not just to discover bugs, but to make sure the games are also fun to play.

So therefore your act is wearing thin.

What I do believe is that you’re just a Sony Troll who hates the fact that Wipeout64 is so good, and so you’re perpetuating some idea that it’s nothing new, and ultimately you hope Psygnosis takes your lead by calling the next version Wipeout 3, which may confuse consumers into thinking that Wipeout64 is just a port, which it is not.

But Psygnosis can call it whatever they want.

Whatever comes next will always be v4.0 to me.

>However, regardless of your opinions on wipEout64, the next
>incarnation of the series WILL be called wipEout 3.

Like Wipout XL was called Wipeout 2?

I will believe it when I see it.

>Granted, wipEout64 has
>some original features, such as a few new weapons,

So therefore implementing them in the next Wipeout game would solidify Wipeout64’s contribution to the evolution in the series, thus making
the next Wipeout v4.0

BTW- Are you going to implement the 4 player multiplayer option into the new Sony version?

>and some newly dress
ed
>tracks (they are not as new as they first seem…),

The same can be said of the differences between Wipout and WipeoutXL. Try again.

>The version we are doing, while retaining many of the features found in the
>original titles, will certainly be recognisable as the 3rd in the series,

Original titles such as Wipeout64 I assume? Or are you just going to perpetuate the belief that the super weapons never existed before your so-called Wipeout “3”? Or are you not going to implement them at all?

In other words, if you add elements to the next Wipeout that were developed for Wipeout64, then in all logical conclusions the next installment is technically WIPEOUT 4.

>and hopefully even a grumpy cynic like yourself will be pleased and
>impressed at the improvements and features.

Actually I’m a lighthearted fun-loving cynic. Check my header information!

>You can make your own mind up

Thanks for the green light! I will!

>So far, almost all the people who have posted their ideal inclusions to the
>game will not be disappointed.

Psygnosis has rarely dissapointed me.

But you know, something tells me that Wipeout64 is as good as the series will ever get, that is till Wipeout Dreamcast is created (or whatever). Considering it looks the best out of all of the curent versions, has four player capabilities, the best weapons and is the most difficult I’ve played so far.
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On the Usenet, some consider paranoia to be its own art form. And, as with any art, for every Picasso, there’s a hundred monkeys with fingerpaints.

Item Twenty Two: December 1, 1998
He Ain’t Roger Ebert.
Stumbled across this today at IMDB, in their User Comments section, regarding the Super Mario Brothers movie. Now, I like the movie, and proud Kentucky native Shawn Hopkins didn’t. But that’s not why he’s in the Shrine. He goes in for this frankly astonishing bit of movie criticism. You’ll see what I mean.

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Summary: Eeew Gross

Any movie that focuses as much on fungus, mushrooms and genetically altered lizard men as much as this one does has problems. Real unwholesome both morally and visually. The design of the characters and their motivations is a nightmare. It’s like that movie “The Pickle” , a movie about making a movie where a giant pickle crashes among “trendy people” come to life. The whole thing is joyless and ethically bankrupt. I mean, who laughs when a person gets turned into an animal. That is not funny. It’s also one of those dark movies. It’s like they could not afford many lights and they shot all their locations on overcast days. The only real reason to see it is Samantha Mathis. Boy do I like her. Watch “Broken Arrow” too. Pluses: Nothing like the video game, Princess Daisy, Bob Hoskins mastery of all accents known to man Minuses: Two expressions for Goomba heads:open mouth and closed mouth, nasty villains, nasty sets, this movie is for the most part kind of like something dried and sticky and hard you find underneath your movie seat. It could just be gum but then again it could be- Eeewwww.

p.s. if you think I have a problem with fungus you should hear what I have to say against Carnosaur. Dinosaurs that come from chickens. That’s just wrong.
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“Who laughs when a person gets turned into an animal.” Who indeed, Shawn… who, indeed.

Item Twenty One: December 1, 1998
Brad The Logician
Brad, Brad, Brad. Brad’s been involved in a teensy weensy flame war on rec.toys.action-figures.discuss, in a thread I’d been ignoring before hostilities broke out. But this one particular message caught my eye. Brad had called someone a “dyke”, been called on it, got confused (surprise), and finally had it explained to him slowly. This response was the result:

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I apologize.I did mention homoerotic tendancies on behalf of Minty and Pixie. However, this doesn’t mean that I am homophobic…..but you are right, I don’t like gays.
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Brad wins points in the Non-Apology Apology department, the Self-Contradiction department, the General Cluelessness department, and the Russian judge gives him a six.

Oh, and here’s a Dejanews Author Profile link, so if you’d like to read more about Brad, dykes, three-ways, and, nominally, Star Wars, click here.

Item Twenty: October 28, 1998
The Golden Mouse Award
The following post to alt.folklore.urban wins the first ever Moron Shrine Golden Mouse Award for just being… for… for its very existence. As an added touch of delicious irony, both people involved have been complaining about being treated like clueless newbies by the newsgroup’s regular cadre of posters. Enjoy.

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To no.spam.mike20
Author: Jimmycat
Date: 1998/10/25
Forums: alt.folklore.urban

no.spam.mike20, my email responses to your email keep getting returned to me (there may be something about the no.spam in your email name that I’m ignorant about), so I’m posting here.Thanks for your response.Email me again if you want to talk further.

–Carol
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Further comment would, of course, be superfluous.

Item Nineteen: October 28, 1998
Jim, The Troll
Today, the Moron Shrine takes a look at the “art” of trolling. Specifically, the art of posting an outrageous, yet inflammatory message that incites passionate responses from those who don’t see through the outrageousness of your troll.

There are good trolls and bad trolls, and the quality of the troll isn’t actually related to its success. Consider the following example from www.toymania.com’s “Buzz Board”. Jim writes:

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READ YOUR OWN GUIDELINES

I posted the sale of 2 batgirl figures. Read your own guidelines. Nowhere does it state that a sale cannot be posted, only NO COMMERCIAL ADVERTISEMENTS. Please get your act together. The rules I read did not state NO SALES. Please read and then correct me if I am wrong. Thanks
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The board’s owner responds:

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You are indeed wrong. I’ll make the rules more explicit. We do not permit any For Sale or For Trade advertising on this board. We may, in the future, develop a board devoted to this type of use, but for now, we will continue to delete posts as necessary to keep this board simply a discussion board.

Thanks for your understanding.
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And then Jim follows up with:

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Lets change the guidelines midstream.

The only thing you will indeed do is conveniently change the guidelines in midstream to suit your needs. Admit it I was right – your guidelines did not state “NO SALE”. Please consider adding that in the future to your so called GUIDELINES. Think more carefully in the future and in advance about stated guidelines. Thanks.
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Which elicits the following response from, again, the board’s owner:

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First, this has been an ongoing policy since the board opened. I know what I intended when the board was set up and nothing has
changed since that time. I will indeed make the guidelines more *explicit* so that folks like you who want to nit pick can be absolutely clear on the intent of the guidelines.

Secondly, if I wer
e to decide to change any or all of the guidelines “midstream” that would also be my perogative. This is not a public forum. It is a private service provide at no charge to the readers of this site. If you do not like the guidelines, I’d be happy to point you in the direction of several other venues in which you may happily ply your trade. But I certainly don’t appreciate the rude reply to what is simply a guideline that has been in place since the board’s inception.
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Seems like a fairly typical exchange between Irate Moron and Reasoned Rulemaker. But then, Jim lifts the veil from his evil plan, and posts the following:

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You’ve fallen for one of the oldest internet tricks

You’ve been had. You did the worst thing you possibly could have done – responded. Sucker. See Ya
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And, to a similar note on the thread, pointing out the definition of “commercial”:

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Gee I’m so glad you can read the dictionary. But you are missing the point. This was a joke. You’ve been had by one of the oldest internet jokes around. And you fell face first into it. Come on let’s have a little fun here. Lighten things up a bit. See Ya
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Here’s a tip, Jim. Getting people to respond seriously to a post that looks completely serious is not exactly a major social coup. Kind of like turning in your letter of resignation to your assistant manager at Taco Bell, and then laughing at him when he’s surprised to see you caulking sour cream onto Nachos Bell Grande the next day.

Welcome to the Shrine.

Item Eighteen: October 16, 1998
Why Customer Surveys Suck
The following cry for help was posted to rec.toys.action-figures.discuss a while back. It concerns… well, I’ll just let you read it yourselves.

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Subject: NIGHT AT THE ACTION FIGURE!!!

I WISH I WISH I WISH

NIGHT AT THE ROXBURRY ACTION FIGURES WITH A LITTLE BUTTON ON THE BACK THAT YOU CAN PUSH AND THEIR HEAD WILL BOUNCE!!!!!!!

I have only seen the skit one time on Saturday nite live and did not think much of it but I was dragged to the movie NIGHT AT THE ROXBURRY and …..
(well i figured i would have to walk out ….but)
It was AWSOME!!!REALLY!!! no joke !!!
I was very suprised.
ANYONE got ideas on what figures i could attempt a custom job ????
I dont know how I would get the “action” feature?
I just know that this movie is gonna bomb but it would be awsome to see action figures.
It was better than Austin Powers and they are supposed to make a part 2 and a FOX animated version with ACTION FIGURES !!!
SO…..MAYBEE i am dreaming a bit but….you never know

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Have you ever just had bile rise up in the back of your throat, then sit there for about an hour and a half, taunting you, teasing you, and scarring your insides? That’s what this post does to me.

Item Seventeen: October 16, 1998
I Told You So
First, refresh your memory. Skim down to Item 14, and re-read. Got it? Good.

Now, read the following, posted to my dear rec.arts.tv.mst3k.misc:

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Subject: ‘N sync newsgroup!!!

Were u waiting for an ‘N sync newsgroup?Of course you were silly!! Heres the group:dejanews.members.ent.mayismyday20.nsync You can also look up ‘N sync in the interest finder.its on the list of links. Have fun!Post much!
Luv ya all Holli
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I told you. I told you all, but you laughed, and said to yourselves, “What will it hurt? So DejaNews has forums now. Big deal.” Well now you know. Further proof, as if we needed it, that giving people the opportunity to say whatever they want to a global audience is not necessarily a Good Thing.

Item Sixteen: September 29, 1998
The Fine Art of Discourse
From the normally fine newsgroup alt.folklore.urban comes this stunning exchange between a pair of AOL users. A.f.u. is having a bit of a rough time of late, what with the congruence of college newbies and the release of the “Urban Legend” slasher flick. It’s that selfsame flick that inspired the following:

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BLOODY MARY/MARY WORHT

Author:NeilYfan
Date:1998/09/27
Forums: alt.folklore.urban

THESE WER GAMES WE PLAYED ENVOLVING LINKING HAND AND CHANTING EITHER BLODY MARY THREE TIMES WHILE LOOKING IN A MIRROR OR SAYINS I BELIVE IN MARY WORHT THREE TIMES ALSO LOKING INTO A MIRROE THE RESULTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THE SAME A BLODY FACED LONG FINGER-NAILED HAG WOULD APEAR IN THE MIRROR AND SCRATCH YOUR FACE FUNY IT NVER WORKED FOR US COULD THE REASON BE WE PLAYED IT IN OUR CHURCH BASEMENT BATHROOM?I ALSO REMBER PLAYING A GAME SIMILAR TO LIGHT AS A FEATHER STIFF AS A BOARD IT WENT AROUND IN A CIRCLE WITH EACH REPEATING SHE LOKS SICK SHE IS SICK SHE LOKS DEAD SHE IS DEAD LETS RAISE HER. AT WIHICH POINT THE ONE LYING IN THE MIDDLE WOULD LEVITATE NVER WORKED EITHERRe: BLOODY MARY/MARY WORHT

Author: PNKRGRL4
Date:1998/09/27
Forums: alt.folklore.urban

that is exactly the reason why it never worked for you or your friends.you need to do it in the place where the spirit will feel welcome.and of course, a church is not very inviting for spirits of the dead.doing that in a place like your house or any other place BUT a church will guarentee it working.I did a study one time to see if my theory was correct.I tried it in my own bathroom, and it worked.I tried it in my one friend’s bathroom, and it worked.After trying it in various friends’ houses, i tried it in three different church bathrooms, and all three failed to work
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the target audience for “Night at the Roxbury”. Should do boffo B.O., with ancillary monies superb amongst the moron set.

Item Fifteen: August 27, 1998
The Overly Legal Usenet Spaz
Nobody knew his name. He rode into the thread on a horse so high the saddle had acrophobia. He went by the handle “[email protected]”, and nobody knew how to pronounce it. He was the Overly Legal Usenet Spaz, and this is his entry:

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Mr. Richardson, I have read your August 21, 1998, response to my posting dated August 20, 1998.I have re-read the posting dated August 14, 1998–to which I had responded–and I urge you, yourself, to re-read the posting dated August 14, 1998.(For expediency, you may use the key-phrase “Twenty-Seventh Amendment”).

Contrary to what you said in your reply dated August 21, 1998, for the record, Mr. Richardson, there are NO arrows at the left margin indicating that somebody EARLIER in the thread stated: “They (the U.S. Supreme Court) didn’t strike the (27th) amendment as such, they just said it wasn’t passed properly according to the method set out in the (Federal) Constitution.”I have printed on paper the posting dated August 14, 1998, as physical proof of the absence of such arrows at the left margin and I will be happy to convey the paper copy to you if you will let me know how to transmit it to you.

Mr. Richardson, because there are NO such arrows at the left margin of the August 14th posting–and because your “un-arrowed” name, your “un-arrowed” title and your “un-arrowed” geographic location immediately follow the “un- arrowed” remarks–the comments would appear (to the nak
ed eye) to be YOUR words, rather than the musings of somebody earlier in the thread.

And as for your quip that my posting dated August 20, 1998, told you nothing that yo
u did not already know about Boehner v. Anderson–and about the ratification of the 27th Amendment in general–I can only respond by saying that I do not particularly care what YOU know or do not know, Mr. Richardson. My concern, rather, is with what information is disseminated to the general public about the 27th Amendment.Given that I devoted a large portion of my life and my finances–starting in 1982–to the consideration of the 27th Amendment by legislators in several states, sufficient to propel the amendment into the Nation’s highest legal document, I will vigorously contest any statement that is NOT accurate and that somebody has shared with the general public via any means of communication–print or electronic.Thank you.

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You’re welcome. A moron with a thesaurus is still a moron.

Item Fourteen: August 12, 1998
DejaNews Forums
This is a new area for the Moron Shrine. We’re gonna break the boundaries a bit, stretch the definitions, think outside the box, and award a Special Achievement In Moronitude award to DejaNews for creating their own hierarchy of Usenet and allowing people to create newsgroups, or, as they like to call them, “forums”, at the drop of a hat.

And that hat keeps dropping. Look at the current list of new groups. Click here. Done? Great. There’s this huge, scary list of lame forums, all with a single welcome message in them. Hundreds of them. I’m sure there are thousands total by now. Brings a chill to the spine, really.

So this list, always changing, yet never changing, takes up residence in the Shrine.

Item Thirteen: August 9, 1998
Terry Roofe
All available evidence points to Mr. Roofe being a small, bitter man. For a couple of years now, he’s been carrying resentment about the various splits in the rec.toys hierarchy, and engaging in multiple voting schemes in ultimately futile attempts to cause those splits to fail. He’s been silent for months, but suddenly burst back onto rec.toys.action-figures.discuss with the following spew, qualifying him for Shrine induction at last.

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Hey got this great idea, for a new group, it would be called rec.toys.action-figures.disc.whoTheHellGivesAFatRatsAssAbout WhatRoxiRotandGareeThinkAboutEachOther

see this is a discussion group about TOYS and their playsets, not about seeing how much the three of you can kiss each others BUTTS …thats all i see no discussion from any of you, just all this crap about getting picked up at a toy show, how much i love dragons( most likely the only thing DRAGON on you is your butt… dragging the floor), the little love packages you keep sending back and forth to each other and ROTS and GAREES really bad attempt at humor …let me give you a tip, if your not funny, don’t try to be… discuss toys and keep your personal crap to e-mail ….thank you
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You’re welcome, Terry. And you’re now, officially, a Moron.

Item Twelve: August 7, 1998
Modelandtoycollector
Found this one today on rec.toys.action-figures.discuss, in the midst of a thread complaining about the trend toward higher-priced, niche-market figures:

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im sorry to those who think they cost too $$$$$$ i been a secondary market retailor for 22 years iv done books originally, comics, and now toys. if your paying more than you want your doing two things. first, your not waiting till its closed out.it ALL GOES ON SALE eventually.and if you dont agree, your justifying you spending habits. second, your not shopping or looking enough. both of these problems are personel and instant gratification related. NOBODY IS RAPING THE CONSUMER, THE PROBLEM IS YOU CANNOT KEEP YOU PECKER (wallet&money) in your pants. You buy into the hype, “I gotta have it”,,,,”I cant wait”My question with those spenders is always,Do you play with it, collect it, or FUCK IT?? im sorry but all iv ever sold i could always sold for less than other retailors, thats why im here. so you should always be able to buy for less, cause you taking your time and/or shoppingand last, relative to new direct and non major company figures,their presales cover there costs. sales dont put them out of buisness, poor quality, bad shipping practices and poor customer relations put them under….that does eaqual sales in the long term, but they make their own bed. i will answer all email….the collector in buffalo ny!!”
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Item Eleven: July 30, 1998
Stephen C. Tate
Geez. It never rains, it pours. True for morons, too. I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. Or just put ’em in creationist science teacher Steve Tate’s hands, and let him fill their little, impressionable heads with stuff like this:

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Hehe…I LOVE this…I am a public school science teacher and I so love to see people bring up the billions of years crap to argue against religion (lets forget that the time described in the bible is God’s time and beyond our understanding)…lets just do math…

Make is simple!You have 2 things in a box – how many possible ways are there to take them out…in how many different orders?2 right? ab or ba

Now put in 3…how many orders? 6! abc, acb, bac, bca, cab, cba

Go for 4…24 – you figure that out…regardless what I am talking about is pure random chance through a process called factorials!You hopefully all know these…

Ok – is 18 billion years ENOUGH time?NO WAY and factorials prove it conclusively and simply…I will charge you no evolutionary time for any big bang or planet formation or chemical separation or even life formation…hows that!I will give you everything in the whole world except the human skeleton – just 200 bones…and please evolve them for me randomly! 200! (200 factorial) is a number with 375 zeros in it…If I allow you to reorganize the bones every second for 18 billion years you will have only tried 315576000000000000ish combinations – nowhere near a 375 digit whole number – your chances of evolving JUST the human skeleton in only 18 billion years is incom,prehensible – and if you DO give the universe ENOUGH time to evolve randomly (did you notice I let you reorganize every second – does evolution porport to work that efficiently?)…anyway – as I was saying were I to allow ENOUGH time for all the things in the universe to fall into their order they are in right now (what would the factorial equation for THAT look like?) a little law called Entropy would trump you out!

Yet, with God all things are possible!
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Yup. Even people like this teaching science to children.

Item Ten: July 30, 1998
dogwagger
Presented here, verbatim, from CineScape’s “humor” forum, is dogwagger’s “the adventures of bob the talking gineu pig” (sic):

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Announcer:We join our hero this week as he plays a little john lee hooker in his favorite nightclub

doo doo do doo
boom boom boom
doo doo do doo
mmmmmmm
doo doo de do doo
gon’ shoot ye right down
doo doo do de di
boom boom boom.

(aud
ience applauds)
bob: thank you, I’m bob the talking gineu pig,that was a john lee hooker song.
announcer:I already told them t
hat.
bob:oh
(bob waddles over to the bar.five minutes later he has successfully climbed onto a stool.)
bob:hey pete.
pete(the bartender):hey bob,how ya doin?
bob:pretty good,how bout you?
pete:good,hey there were these guys in here looking for ya the other day,in fact I think that’s them comin towards us right now .
Guy 1:are you bob,the talking ginue pig?
bob:yes,I’m bob.
guy 2:ohhh,Isn’t he the cutest little thing!
guy 1:he sure is,and he talks in a cute little gineu pig vioce don’t you you fluff muffin,goochy goochy goo,
bob:(exasperated)is there anything I can do for you?
guy 2:uh,*hrumph*(stratening up)yes,bob.We need you to come with us,it’s a matter of global security.
guy 1:and he plays a tiny little guitar too!
guy 2:snap out of it man!there’s work to be done.

announcer:later, at nasa headquarters.

cheif of nasa:alow me to intraduce myself bob,I’m billy bob thorton,cheif of nasa.We have brought you here today because a large unkown object is headed for earth,it could be aliens,it could be a meteor,it could be the bloated corpse of one of the astranauts from the voyager mission,we don’t know.But we’de like to send you into space to find out what it is.
bob:why me? I’m just a talking gineu pig,why not send up some astronauts?
Billy bob thorton:well bob, we figure if it’s a meteor there’s nothing we can do-
nasa worker:what about my idea boss?send up a team of oil drillers to plant a nuclear device at the center then blow it up from the inside?
billy bob thorton:don’t be silly.as I was saying,can’t do anything about a meteor,and a bloated corpse from one of the voyager missioms is harmless.however if it’s aliens we think you’de be the perfect ambassador,on account of you being so cute.
bob:so you want me to risk my life by going into space on a probably piontless mission so that if it’s aliens they can get a chuckle out or a snack out of earth’s ambasador?you’re saying you want me for being a talking gineu pig,not for being the best man for the job?forget it.
bbt:you’re so cute when you’re angry.isn’t he cute?
nasa people:he’s adorable.
(some one places a suitcase on the table,bob opens it,it is full of cheese doodles.)
bob:I’m going to space
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Remember to weep for the death of the spirit and the soul where you work or bank.

Item Nine: June 18, 1998
Tyree Vs. Godzilla
From Cinescape’s Godzilla Forum comes our latest moron. Up from the depths, 30 IQ points high, sees flaming, his head’s in his ass. Of all the reasons to dislike “Godzilla”, he chooses this one:

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Before I explain, I will not respond to nonsense about public lifestyle and other affirmations of gay life. That is not what I am saying.I am saying that Godzilla was homosexual overkill. Both Dean and Rolands’ smoking of the bologne pony has nothing to do with my argument. I am only focused on what is on screen.

There are numerous moments in Godzilla where the color coordination on screen appears like the Gay Unity Rainbow. Hank Azaria, Maria Pitillo, Jean Reno, Doug Savant are all obviously gay in real life; their depictions of each character they play is a poor cliche of “with it” straight people. The Doug Savant military character is feminine, inept, and wears a “caesar” haircut which is a common gay haircut. The Chinese Apache helicopter pilot was also obviously gay–he was inept too. Michael Lerner as the mayoris another gay man. The Freudian use of torpedoes was another little in joke for the elitist homosexuals who made the film as they send it out for little kids and families to see all over the world.”
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And some followups from “Tyree”:

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I sat in front of Dean Devlin and his posse at a screening. They all gigled the whole time at all their in-jokes. There is nothing offensive about being gay to me. I am aware that the world is not always friendly. But I don’t think the answer is to reverse discriminate. Anyone who knows televsion and movies from the inside, knows what I am talking about. Ellen and Anne are both very nice people. But they are both pawns–casualties?–to a sinister game. There is an elitism of homosexual artists and scholars that is nasty. In films like Godzila, the entire film is so unnerving. It’s not right to out people. But people should know that it is hatred of Middle America that propels many in the community of artists and technicians in Los Angeles. There is no city in America that uses more terms and sentiments more hatefully than L.A.: white trash, Bible Belt Crap, hicks, and trailer trash.

Godzilla disses the audience. Many works have so many in-jokes that mock the audience that it is sick. All people deserve better.

Peace
The filmmakers of Godzilla are very L.A.

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“The earthworms in Chernobyl were also phallic. The military was shown to be incompetent, technically unresourceful, and weak. It was an insult to the reality of our armed forces. They didn’t even attack Godzilla with a jet until the end. There was no technology, no research on the part of the filmmakers. Even the medals on the chests of the soldiers were not red, white, and blue; they were technicolor ‘broadway badges of valor’.

I am correct. Watch the film again because I won’t.
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Where do you live? If you can’t tell somebody is gay, you obviously do not live in a major city or work in any artistic field. Not all gay men are as obvious as Nathan Lane in The Birdcage–played for comedy. I will say that Devlin is not hiding it from anybody. Thousands and thousands of people know about Ellen and others. I am just enlightening your sorry excuse for intelligence.”
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Item Eight: June 2, 1998
Ekoc.

Ekoc, also known occasionally as “Ispep”, is, apparently, a delusional religious nut who goes on IRC and hassles people for not doing enough community service and also for their general immorality. Anyway, last week, he stopped by the Homegame between movies, and we batted him around a bit. Enjoy this fine transcript.

Item Seven: May 15, 1998
Calvin

I present, to those of you with strong stomachs, the collected writings of Calvin, the toy scalper, all from rec.toys.action-figures.

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know one will buy something and sell it for the same price they got it for, only the ones who missed out is crying. you have a lot of grow babys on the net that is not making any money so they are upset and need something to do with there time. people if you dont like a price dont buy, but please dont cry and post your hard feeling on the net . go to a bar have a drink talk to the bar tender thats what hes there for.

you think i need to go back to school, but im the one that just sold over 100 witchblade action figures on this board rigth here, i think thats kinda good for someone who not up to your standards.ha,ha,ha.
ps: a grow baby is someone who dont want to see another grow. kinda like trick baby, but you dont know about that also. too much school andno street sence. it takes both theres days.

i was asking $20.00 each on the witchblade action figures but if you need one it will cost you $ 35.00 because you went to a good school and make good money, but im wrong there. and please get a job and leave me alone. do not e-mail me again.

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Oh, Calvin. Don’t ever stop drinking that mercury-laced tap water. We love you so.

Item Six: May 8, 1998
More fun from rec.arts.sf.tv, this time proclaiming the perfection of Voyager and Brannon Braga.

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Just wait a minute. Brannon Braga has been a wonderful science fiction
writer for a long time and that is what ST is all about. Bringing pure
science fiction in a familiar format. If you have a rough time following
that then your the fan of something else. And who says Voyager is ready
to fail anyway. I feel lucky to be able to have something to look
forward to every week. I am facinated by the possiblities, which is what
good science fiction is all about-what might be.
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Item Five: May 5, 1998
Todd.

Item Four: April 27, 1998
Found on rec.arts.sf.tv, in a thread entitled “Star Trek Science Advisors”. For some context, the individual quoted below is defending a different moron, who has spent the past two weeks trying to rationalize and justify such scientific errors in Trek as the infamous “below absolute zero” temperature quoted in “Casino Royale”.

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Look you Babylaniac TJ has not been defeated! And let it be known that
Trek does get its science right.I have posted this many times to Defiant
vs. White Star.If Trek did get its science wrong we would have ended up
with another Battlestar Glactica.But Gene cared too much about his show
and the fans that were precious to him.
ST:TOS had some bad science but this was mainly b/c the network didn’t
believe the show would be successful and forced allot of shootumup FX into
the show.
Later with TNG they realized how successful the show was, and allowed
Gene to hire real scientist and put them on staff.These experts worked
out the math and theory of all of the devices we see in ST now.I mean
these were people like Hawking who appeared in one of the latter episodes.
Voyager and DS9 continue in this grand groundbreaking tradition.Although
DS9 is more of and Epic like The Iliad.
So please be careful when you mock Trek.If not for Trek then all the
lesser SF that you enjoy so much would disappear.
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Item Three: April 27, 1998
The Dorn Incident
This one’s a link to a chat transcript of what I lovingly call “The Dorn Incident”. During “The Dorn Incident”, upwards of a dozen individuals on the Sci Fi Channel’s IRC server were convinced that one of the Homegamers was Michael Dorn.

Anyway, it’s a bit tough to follow, but remember, the following chat participants are playing along: MDorn, andre5 (aka bowlegged), Ironf, dungarees, THX-1138EB, BryanL, KevinL, mgrasso, BillBear, and SirDude. Everyone else goes in the shrine.

Item Two: April 24, 1998
Another South Park item found on mania.com’s “Buzz Board”. Whew. Edited for obvious reasons.

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MAN, I AM STILL A SOUTH PARK FAN BUT WHY IN THE HELL DID THEY HAVE TO SAY THAT MISSES CARTMAN WAS HIS DAME FATHER THAT GOT ME SO P****ED OFF , I MEAN I HAD TO WAIT TOTAL OF 8 F***ING WEEKS WANDERING WHO THE HELL CARTMANS DAD WAS .
THEY SHOW THAT F***ING TERENCE AND PHILIP SPECIAL WHICH MADE ME F***ING MAD. I WAS ACTUALLY HOPING THAT THEY WOULDSHOW BOTH OF THE PARENTS OF ERIC CARTMAN, BUT NO , THEY HAD TO BE STUPIDS D***S AND F*** IT ALL UP FOR ALL OF US. “
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Item One: April 23, 1998
Found on mania.com’s “Buzz Board”, discussing South Park:

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they make up things about the celebrity (i never heard anyone even imply that leonard malton is ultraman – it wasnt funny)”
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